Vertical Bandsaws: Difference between revisions

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MachineInfoBox Vertical Bandsaws

Synonyms:	DE: Bandsägen (Sg. Bandsäge)
Material:	depends on the blade (see individual machines)
Access Requirements:	Vertical Bandsaw Introduction
Tutors:	Lukas Jakob Loewenstein
Similar (More or Less):	scroll saw

We got several vertical bandsaws (the typical type most people mean when they say "bandsaw") from our awesome members over the years!

We use larger bandsaws for wood and a smaller one for metal - here we also have a horizontal bandsaw!

Interesting Resources

Inspiration

Here are some examples of projects you could use a bandsaw for:

foldable dice tower from a single block of wood
cutting delicate materials like PMMA pipe
resawing wood into thinner boards

WoodSter 2 BS 412

MachineInfoBox WoodSter 2 BS 412

Type:	Vertical Bandsaw
Material:	wood
Used with:	1870-1880 mm bandsaw blades
Location:	office
Access Requirements:	Vertical Bandsaw Introduction
Manual:	identical(?): Inca EURO 260 (inca-maschinen.ch)
Tutors:	Lukas Jakob Loewenstein

New medium-size bandsaw coming soon

We were given a "WoodSter 2 BS 412" which now needs to be commissioned. It is very similar, if not identical, to an Inca EURO 260.^[1]

Specs

cutting height: 155 mm
throat clearance (Ausladung): 260 mm
wheel diameter: 280 mm
blade (DE and EN manual sections differ?!)
- blade length: 1870-1880 mm (DE)/1850 mm (EN)
- blade width: 3-15 mm (DE)/3-18 mm (EN)
- blade thickness: 0.4-0.65 mm (DE)/0.5 mm (EN)
motor speed: 1000 rpm
table tilt: max. 45°

This tool is not ready for use yet since not all commissioning steps have been completed. The process is not yet tracked on GitHub. Feel free to contribute to making it usable, any help is very welcome!

Task	comment	Status
Name the tool:	-	done
Take a picture	-	pending
Find the manual as PDF	very similar - exact brand not found	done
Documentation	this page, status: in commissioning	pending
Print QR-Code	use the wikicrawler	pending
Introduction	-	pending
Security Check	to be done or witnessed by a manager	pending
Test	to be done or witnessed by a manager	pending
tool's name, owner and approx. value	provide to Patrick for inventorization	pending
Last step: make it available	physically and in the wiki - then delete this template	pending

Metabo BS 1638 W

MachineInfoBox Metabo BS 1638 W

Type:	Vertical Bandsaw
Material:	wood
Used with:	2225 mm bandsaw blades; bandsaw fence, bandsaw sled
Location:	wood workshop
Access Requirements:	Vertical Bandsaw Introduction
Manual:	identical(?): Metabo BAS 380 (libble.de)
Tutors:	Lukas Jakob Loewenstein

The Metabo BS 1638 W (you can probably drop the "W" when searching for accessories) is a three-wheeled bandsaw for 2225 mm bandsaw blades.

DO NOT use the integrated disc sander! A proper disc sander needs a table against kickback, and it's generally a bad idea to use a sharp blade as a mere driving belt...

The saw was missing a parallel fence but Manu built one that should be fine for most uses, please help us out if you would like to improve and document it further!

Specifications

more details in the manual!

cutting height: 160 mm
throat clearance (Ausladung): 380 mm
max. workpiece weight: 15 kg

this saw can easily cut through quite thick pieces, such as this part of a log

Caution with Curves

make difficult curves towards the rear bearing (left arrow)!

Besides the radius, which is determined by the blade width, you may run into problems with tight curves going in the wrong direction. Please make sure the wood is pushed towards the side with the support bearing (left) during difficult curves or there can be a very unpleasant derailing!

"Difficult" means any combination of...

hard wood
thick workpiece
tight curve

CMI C-S-BS 250

MachineInfoBox CMI C-S-BS 250

Synonyms:	CMI C-BAN-250 (probably the same); DE: "Metall-Bandsäge"
Type:	Vertical Bandsaw
Material:	metal (depending on blade); wood (currently not intended)
Used with:	1400 mm bandsaw blades
Location:	Metal Workbench
Access Requirements:	Vertical Bandsaw Introduction
Manual:	nearly identical: Westfalia RBS 205
Tutors:	Lukas Jakob Loewenstein
Similar (More or Less):	scroll saw

This small bandsaw does not have much power, but may be used to cut soft metals. As it has rarely been used and we have a horizontal bandsaw now, we might transform it into a belt sander.

The blade guides are very simple, just consisting of two pins for the sides and a bearing for the back of the blade. We should turn an eccentric bearing mount to increase their lifetime (by default, the blade runs too close to the center of the bearing).

Please refer to the proper blade-guide distances explained in our bandsaw introduction, NOT the ones from the manual!

Specs:

blade length - 1400 mm
max. blade width - ???
max. blade thickness - 0.36 mm^[2]
max. cutting depth - 80 mm

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-We got two bandsaws from our awesome members!
-There is a larger bandsaw for [[wood]] and a smaller one for [[metal]].
-== Interesting Resources ==
-* [http://www.doebeli.ch/Files/pdf_inca_handbuecher/arbeiten_mit_bandsaegen.pdf ''"Arbeiten mit Bandsägen" slideshow'' (DE)]
-* [https://www.bghm.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbeitsschuetzer/Praxishilfen/Unterweisungshilfen/BG_5.3.3_Tischbandsaegemaschinen.pdf ''Sicheres Arbeiten an Tischbandsägemaschinen'' (DE)]
-* [https://www.bghm.de/arbeitsschuetzer/praxishilfen/arbeitsschutz-kompakt/039-arbeiten-an-bandsaegemaschinen/?L=0 ''Arbeitsschutz kompakt Nr. 039 "Arbeiten an Bandsägemaschinen"'' (DE)]
-* [https://www.bghm.de/arbeitsschuetzer/praxishilfen/arbeitsschutz-kompakt/063-arbeiten-an-metallbandsaegen/?L=0 ''Arbeitsschutz kompakt Nr. 039 "Arbeiten an Metallbandsägen"'' (DE)]
-* [https://www.1-2-do.com/wissen/Bands%C3%A4ge_richtig_einstellen ''Bandsäge richtig einstellen'' (DE)]
-== Metabo BS 1638 W ==
 {{MachineInfoBox
-|machine name=Metabo BS 1638 W
+|machine name=Vertical Bandsaws
-|image=Metabo BS 1638 W.jpg
+|image=Timber on bandsaw.JPG
-|synonyms="Bandsäge"
+|synonyms=DE: Bandsägen (Sg. Bandsäge)
-|type=power [[saw]]
+|material=depends on the blade<br>(see individual machines)
-|material=[[wood]]
+|location=|access=[[Bandsaw Introduction|bandsaw introduction]]
-|used with=2225 mm [[Bandsaw Blades|bandsaw blades]];<br>[[Bandsaw Fence|bandsaw fence]], [[Bandsaw Sled|bandsaw sled]]
+|manual=|similar=[[Scroll Saw|scroll saw]]
-|location=[[Location::Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
+|extrabox=yes
-|access=[[Bandsaw Introduction]]
-|tutors=[[Tutor::User:Lukas|Lukas]]
-|manual=identical(?): [https://www.libble.de/metabo-bas-380/p/187716/ Metabo BAS 380 (libble.de)]
-|donation=
-|similar=[[Scroll Saw|scroll saw]]
 }}
-The Metabo BS 1638 W (you can probably drop the "W" when searching for accessories) is a three-wheeled bandsaw for 2225 mm [[Bandsaw Blades|bandsaw blades]].
+We got several vertical bandsaws (the typical type most people mean when they say "bandsaw") from our awesome members over the years!
-The saw was missing a parallel fence but Manu built one that should be fine for most uses, please [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/69 help us out] if you would like to improve and document it further!
+We use larger bandsaws for [[wood]] and a smaller one for [[metal]] - here we also have a [[Horizontal Bandsaw|horizontal bandsaw]]!
-=== Specifications ===
+==Interesting Resources==
-''more details in the [https://www.libble.de/metabo-bas-380/p/187716/ manual]!''
+*[http://www.doebeli.ch/Files/pdf_inca_handbuecher/arbeiten_mit_bandsaegen.pdf ''"Arbeiten mit Bandsägen" slideshow'' (DE)]
-* cutting height: 160 mm
+*[https://www.bghm.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbeitsschuetzer/Praxishilfen/Unterweisungshilfen/BG_5.3.3_Tischbandsaegemaschinen.pdf ''Sicheres Arbeiten an Tischbandsägemaschinen'' (DE)]
-* throat clearance ''(Ausladung)'': 380 mm
+*[https://www.bghm.de/arbeitsschuetzer/praxishilfen/arbeitsschutz-kompakt/039-arbeiten-an-bandsaegemaschinen/?L=0 ''Arbeitsschutz kompakt Nr. 039 "Arbeiten an Bandsägemaschinen"'' (DE)]
-* max. workpiece weight: 15 kg
+*[https://www.bghm.de/arbeitsschuetzer/praxishilfen/arbeitsschutz-kompakt/063-arbeiten-an-metallbandsaegen/?L=0 ''Arbeitsschutz kompakt Nr. 039 "Arbeiten an Metallbandsägen"'' (DE)]
+*[https://www.1-2-do.com/wissen/Bands%C3%A4ge_richtig_einstellen ''Bandsäge richtig einstellen'' (DE)]
-[[File:timber on bandsaw.JPG|thumb|left|300px|this saw can easily cut through quite thick pieces, such as this part of a log]]
+== Inspiration ==
+Here are some examples of [[projects]] you could use a bandsaw for:
+<gallery mode="packed" heights="150">
+File:Würfelturm-poc.jpg|link=[[Project:Würfelturm]]|[[Project:Würfelturm|''foldable dice tower'']] from a single block of wood
+File:bandsaw sled.JPG|cutting delicate materials like [[PMMA]] pipe
+File:Würfelturm05.jpg|link=[[Resawing]]|[[resawing]] wood into thinner boards
+</gallery>
+*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtSPLmQicUU boxes with "seamless" drawers]
+*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HPvcLBSEfY scoops]
 <br clear=all>
-== CMI C-S-BS 250 ==
+<!--  NOTE: The following block "imports" content from separate pages - please don't change the code! To edit the actual information, please go back and click "edit" next to the section headline you are interested in :-)  -->
-{{MachineInfoBox
+{{#ask:
-|machine name=CMI C-S-BS 250
+ [[MachineType::Bandsaw]]
-|image=CMI_C_S_BS_250.JPG
+ |order=descending
-|synonyms=CMI C-BAN-250 (probably the same)
+ |format=embedded
-|type=power [[saw]]
+ |embedonly=yes
-|material=[[wood]], [[metal]] (depending on blade)
-|used with=1400 mm [[Bandsaw Blades|bandsaw blades]]
-|location=[[Location::Metal Workshop|metal workshop]]
-|access=[[Bandsaw Introduction]]
-|tutors=[[Tutor::User:Lukas|Lukas]]
-|manual=nearly identical: [https://www.westfalia-versand.at/service/dat_down.php?datei_id=129742&usg=AOvVaw3sTFdt-PG9b8-ZyYRiJYsb Westfalia RBS 205]
-|donation=
-|similar=[[Scroll Saw|scroll saw]]
 }}
-This small bandsaw does not have much power, but is nice for learning the basics and in case you just need to make some curvy or cold cuts through soft metals.
-The blade guides are very simple, just consisting of two pins for the sides and a bearing for the back of the blade. [[User:Ignaz|Ignaz]] is going to [[turn]] an eccentric bearing mount to increase their lifetime (by default, the blade runs too close to the center of the bearing).
-Please refer to the proper blade-guide distances explained in our [[Bandsaw Introduction|bandsaw introduction]], NOT the ones from the manual!
-Specs:
-* blade length - 1400 mm
-* max. blade width - ???
-* max. blade thickness - 0.36 mm<sup> [https://www.shopbox24.de/werkzeugstahl-premium-saegeband-1400-mm-x-6-mm-x-0-36-mm-x-14-zaehne-pro-zoll-fuer-weiche-metalle-wie-bronze-kupfer-und-aluminium/a-58501/]</sup>
-* max. cutting depth - 80 mm
-== Project Ideas ==
-* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtSPLmQicUU boxes with "seamless" drawers]
-* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HPvcLBSEfY scoops]
 [[Category:Metalworking]]
 [[Category:Saws]]
 [[Category:Woodworking]]