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! scope="col"| Approx. Dimensions
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! scope="row"| yew
! scope="row"| yew
| [[File:Airlag's yew logs.jpg|70 px]]
| two ''logs''
| two ''logs''
| [[User:Airlag|Airlag]]
| [[User:Airlag|Airlag]]
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! scope="row"| pine
! scope="row"| pine
| [[File:pine log drying in attic.JPG|70 px]]
| ''log''
| ''log''
| forest (left over by workers a few weeks before ''<???>'')
| forest (left over by workers a few weeks before ''<???>'')
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! scope="row"| apple
! scope="row"| apple
| [[File:apple logs prepared.JPG|70 px]]
| three logs approx. ø 8{{x}}45 cm
| three logs approx. ø 8{{x}}45 cm
| orchard
| orchard
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! scope="row"| cherry
! scope="row"| cherry
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| ''small piece''
| ''small piece''
| gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12)
| gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12)
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! scope="row"| maple
! scope="row"| maple
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| ''small piece''
| ''small piece''
| gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12)
| gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12)
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! scope="row"| beech
! scope="row"| beech
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| ''small log''
| ''small log''
| sawn from fallen tree (2017-2-5)
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! scope="row"| ''Robinia''
! scope="row"| ''Robinia''
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| ''large log''
| ''large log''
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| sawn from fallen tree 2017-10-21
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| nice overall, some cracks (could have started before treatment)
| nice overall, some cracks (could have started before treatment)
| [[Project:Lumberjack Cake Stand|wedding cake stand]] (2018-4)
| [[Project:Lumberjack Cake Stand|wedding cake stand]] (2018-4)
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! scope="row"| apple
| [[File:outdoor dried apple log.jpg|70 px]]
| ''small log''
| uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier)
| cut faces sealed 2018-10-8
* [[paraffin]] (dripped from burning candles)
| balcony until ''<???>'', then {{£bench}}
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! scope="row"| ash
! scope="row"| ash
| [[File:outdoor dried ash log.JPG|70 px]]
| ''small log''
| uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier)
| cut faces sealed 2018-10-8
* [[paraffin]] (microwaved candle stumps and drops from burning candles)
| balcony until ''<???>'', then {{£bench}}
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! scope="row"| beech
| [[File:outdoor dried beech log.JPG|70 px]]
| ''small log''
| uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier)
| cut faces sealed 2018-10-8
* [[paraffin]] (microwaved candle stumps and drops from burning candles)
| balcony until ''<???>'', then {{£bench}}
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! scope="row"| ash
| [[File:ash log paraffin treatment.JPG|70 px]]
| ''large log with "handle" branch''
| ''large log with "handle" branch''
| roadside (left over by workers a few days before 2018-3-3)
| roadside (left over by workers a few days before 2018-3-3)
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! scope="row"| ''unknown - maybe apple?''  
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| ''small log''
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| spring cutting in gardens 2019-1-29
| spring cutting in gardens 2019-1-29
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! scope="row"| ''unknown - willow, linden, poplar, ash, alder or sycamore??''
! scope="row"| ''unknown - willow, linden, poplar, ash, <strike>alder or sycamore</strike>??''
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| two thick logs:
| two thick logs:
* ø 37{{x}}20 cm
* ø 37{{x}}20 cm
* ø 34{{x}}27 cm
* ø 34{{x}}27 cm
| [[Narquadah]] (cut ''around'' 2019-2-8)
| [[Narquadah]] (cut ''around'' 2018-10)
| cut faces covered with [[Wood Glue|wood glue]] 2019-2-13
| cut faces covered with [[Wood Glue|wood glue]] 2019-2-13
| put under {{£bench}} immediately
| put under {{£bench}} immediately; removed upon discovery of boring beetles 2019-2-27
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| probably failed due to insect infestation - waited too long after felling
| ''planned: bowl turning''
| ''planned: bowl turning''
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! scope="row"| zwetschge (yup, that's the English name)  
! scope="row"| zwetschge (yup, that's the English name)  
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| nearly an entire tree:
| nearly an entire tree:
* ø 14{{x}}100 cm
* ø 14{{x}}100 cm
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| two medium branches:
| two medium branches:
* ø 7{{x}}45 cm
* ø 7{{x}}45 cm

Revision as of 19:34, 6 March 2019

ProjectInfoBox

Drying Timber

Drying timber variety.JPG
Status: ongoing
Release Date: started in 2016, first products in 2018
Initiator: Lukas
Materials Used: various kinds of wood; wood glue, paraffin, clear lacquer
Tools Used: chainsaw, pocket chainsaw, hacksaw, drawknife
Approx. Cost: mostly time & space


Before actively looking for sources of unprocessed timber or rough-cut boards for woodturning blanks or projects like a "river table", I want to experiment with drying and storage techniques to see which works best. Drying too fast will cause the wood to crack while incomplete drying allows fungi to grow.

Here you'll find my experiences! Different woods are tested as they probably won't behave alike.


Progress/Results

Species (Early) Photo Approx. Dimensions Source Treatment Storage Outcome Use Notes
yew Airlag's yew logs.jpg two logs Airlag none Lukas' workbench since 2019-2-6; garage approx. 5 years before that
pine Pine log drying in attic.JPG log forest (left over by workers a few weeks before <???>) bark mostly gone already, no further treatment uninsulated attic since 2016-9-25 not too great (poor) chop block, then firewood (2017-5) first "attempt" without any effort, no big surprise...
apple Apple logs prepared.JPG three logs approx. ø 8 × 45 cm orchard cut into pieces for various approaches:
  • 1.5 cm discs with and without bark
  • untreated log
  • log with cut faces painted over
  • log with bark removed and cut faces painted over
  • garage (logs) or basement/attic (discs) since 2016-10-3
  • Lukas' workbench since <???>
planned: woodturning
cherry small piece gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12) cut faces painted after two months outside
  • double coat of clear lacquer
  • too late - already had several cracks
maple small piece gardener at the JKI Dossenheim (2016-12) cut faces painted after two months outside
  • double coat of clear lacquer
  • too late - already had several cracks
beech small log sawn from fallen tree (2017-2-5) cut faces painted after two weeks outside planned: mallet head "marbled" with some kind of fungus (spalting)
Robinia large log sawn from fallen tree 2017-10-21 (top) cut face painted when brought to the Space
  • double coat of wood glue and water mixture
  • left standing upright
nice overall, some cracks (could have started before treatment) wedding cake stand (2018-4)
apple Outdoor dried apple log.jpg small log uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier) cut faces sealed 2018-10-8 balcony until <???>, then Lukas' workbench
ash Outdoor dried ash log.JPG small log uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier) cut faces sealed 2018-10-8
  • paraffin (microwaved candle stumps and drops from burning candles)
balcony until <???>, then Lukas' workbench
beech Outdoor dried beech log.JPG small log uncle's firewood pile 2018-10-7 (cut approx. 6 months earlier) cut faces sealed 2018-10-8
  • paraffin (microwaved candle stumps and drops from burning candles)
balcony until <???>, then Lukas' workbench
ash Ash log paraffin treatment.JPG large log with "handle" branch roadside (left over by workers a few days before 2018-3-3) cut faces covered when brought to the Space put under Lukas' workbench immediately (2018-3-3) planned: axe/hammer handles
unknown - maybe apple? small log spring cutting in gardens 2019-1-29 cut faces covered with two coats of wood glue 2019-2-4
  • stored on balcony at first
unknown - willow, linden, poplar, ash, alder or sycamore?? two thick logs:
  • ø 37 × 20 cm
  • ø 34 × 27 cm
Narquadah (cut around 2018-10) cut faces covered with wood glue 2019-2-13 put under Lukas' workbench immediately; removed upon discovery of boring beetles 2019-2-27 probably failed due to insect infestation - waited too long after felling planned: bowl turning
zwetschge (yup, that's the English name) nearly an entire tree:
  • ø 14 × 100 cm
  • ø 12 × 55 cm
  • ø 10 × 30 cm
  • ø 8 × 80/55/35 cm
  • ø 6 × 55/35 cm
  • ø 5 × 60 cm
grandma's garden 2019-2-18 cut faces covered with tree wound sealant (silicone or wood glue-based by the smell of it?) on the same day
  • the fungizide part of the sealant is not necessary, but this is what we had at hand
  • the largest log was also stripped of its bark
  • smallest piece (wedge) sealed with paraffin instead
carport "attic"
  • little wedge brought inside immediately
planned: at least some furniture & knife scales
pear two medium branches:
  • ø 7 × 45 cm
  • ø 5 × 40 cm
grandma's garden 2019-2-18 cut faces covered with tree wound sealant (silicone or wood glue-based by the smell of it?) on the same day
  • the fungizide part of the sealant is not necessary, but this is what we had at hand
carport "attic" planned: ornamental woodturning

Further Ideas

  • get/make a moisture meter
  • there is an Instructable on kiln drying at home, but it seems to require lots of space and electricity
  • try cheaper and ecologically safer options than clear lacquer for painting cut faces
  • wood discs can reportedly be placed in a bucket of sawdust to dry, be treated with "wood hardener" or weighed down in a stack and rotated every few weeks
    • not tried yet, but as they are really hard to dry it's best to not cut the timber into discs when still fresh!
  • thin-walled bowls turned out of "green", non-dried wood can supposedly by dried in triple paper bags without checking (cracking) [1]
    • completely different approach, could allow to skip the drying step for some projects?
  • write down some of this "theory" part more nicely
    • drying speed with grain, role of bark, importance to cover faces
    • start with long pieces - gives you room to cut off cracked ends