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=== Topic 0: Show & Tell ===
previously on [[slack]]...
* Idea of doing a short show and tell of projects at the beginning
* problem: Acquisition of presenters -how to solve?
** Mitja: We should just try an open slot and if volunteers are there, let's go
Today's volunteer: Joel - [[Project:Robot Arm]]
===Topic 1: Gaming Corner===
===Topic 1: Gaming Corner===
*It's there and beautiful!
*It's there and beautiful!
*unfortunately the radio signal at the new location is poor, there are random blackouts (loud crashing noise)


=== Topic 2: New Bandsaw ===
=== Topic 2: New Bandsaw ===
previously on [[slack]]...
* Discussion about getting a new bandsaw ongoing
* Discussion about getting a new bandsaw ongoing
* Current bandsaw is on long-term loan and not suitable for resawing thick planks
* Current bandsaw is on long-term loan and not suitable for resawing thick planks
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* Financial constraints make immediate purchase unlikely
* Financial constraints make immediate purchase unlikely
* Gathering interest and willingness to help with funding suggested
* Gathering interest and willingness to help with funding suggested
* Mention of a potential model: Holzbandsäge MJ14 from paulimot.de
* Mention of a potential model: [https://www.paulimot.de/holzbandsaege/mj14 Holzbandsäge MJ14 from paulimot.de]
* Mention of another potential model: Premium 12" Bandsaw from recordpower.co.uk
* Mention of another potential model: [Premium 12" Bandsaw from recordpower.co.uk]
* Suggestion of considering a second-hand bandsaw for cost savings but concerns about maintenance and quality
* Suggestion of considering a second-hand bandsaw for cost savings but concerns about maintenance and quality
* Alternative suggestion of building a bandsaw ourselves using a DIY guide from woodgears.ca
* Alternative suggestion of building a bandsaw ourselves using a DIY guide from woodgears.ca --> difficult: takes a lot of work and might not be safe/durable in the end!
 
new option: bundle of machines from the university for 5000 €
* the bandsaw alone (Mössner Rekord 320, 210 mm workpiece height) is worth about 3500 €, a big CNC mill worth >30000 € refurbished
* where to get the money (quick)?!
** betterplace donations! Keno could already prepare a campaign
** kickstarter style campaign with "rewards" like xy laser minutes?
** Privatdarlehen to buy time?
** can we somehow sell some old machines, perhaps via a reseller who will take care of refurbishing? Especially the large CNC mill might be too much for us
*** other CNC mill/router are under-used due to difficulty and lack of documentation
*** is there enough power (400 V, probably 32 A?)
* big question: how long until we have to decide?


=== Topic 3: Getting a Plasma Cutter ===
=== Topic 3: Getting a Plasma Cutter ===
 
previously on [[slack]]...
* Discussion about the absence of volunteers to maintain the CNC
* Inquiry about the usefulness and price range of a plasma cutter
* Preference expressed for a better bandsaw, jointer planer, or table saw
* Description of a plasma cutter as a tool for cutting complex geometries out of metal plates
* Description of a plasma cutter as a tool for cutting complex geometries out of metal plates
* Cost estimation of a plasma cutter at around 300-400 Euro
* Cost estimation of a plasma cutter at around 300-400 Euro
* [https://youtu.be/siJPmzG_pRU Suggestion of a YouTube video showcasing a mostly printed CNC plasma cutter]
* [https://youtu.be/siJPmzG_pRU Suggestion of a YouTube video showcasing a mostly printed CNC plasma cutter]
* Discussion about the absence of volunteers to maintain the CNC
* Inquiry about the usefulness and price range of a plasma cutter
* Criteria for acquiring new tools discussed, including financing, maintenance, and impact on the space and other tools
* Criteria for acquiring new tools discussed, including financing, maintenance, and impact on the space and other tools
* Agreement that a plasma cutter could be considered if the criteria are met
* Agreement that a plasma cutter could be considered if the criteria are met
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* Suggestion of considering a cored wire welding machine for advantages in the metalworking area
* Suggestion of considering a cored wire welding machine for advantages in the metalworking area


=== Topic 3: Show & Tell ===
* today's opinion: nice idea, but not a priority
** the welding area is still not usable, which should be taken care of before the next diy machine
** the current machine offer (Topic 2) would probably bind the available resources (money and metalworking experts) if we decide to go for it
 
===Topic 4: Repair Café ===
Date: Sat July 8th, 14:00-18:00


* Idea of doing a short show and tell of projects at the beginning
* we need helpers: organizers (mainly need to know their way around the Space) and/or repairers!
* problem: Acquisition of presenters -how to solve?
** Ökostadt Rhein-Neckar (main organizer) collects volunteers in [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GWS9j39MLqeDAFs5vFeZ_5AewFmzRcXV-DiDBkAXl7c/edit?ts=5b046641#gid=1840701637 this Google Sheet]
* Mitja: We should just try an open slot and if volunteers are there, let's go
* Rolf will see whether he can do electric checks again
* other members present are probably not available
* please join the interest group on [[Slack]]: #topic-repair


===Topic 4: Do-Something-Day===
===Topic 5: Do-Something-Day===
*We need organizers for the next [[Issue_Tracker|do something]] day
*We need organizers for the next [[Issue_Tracker|do something]] day
*No key necessary, we will unlock you ;)
*No key necessary, we will unlock you ;)
*Philipp is interested and will pick a date!
===Topic 6: Meet and Code===
Up to 500 € [https://meet-and-code.eu/de/de/news-show/621 funding for workshops around programming for kids/youth in September or October] - deadline for applications: Sep 13th
* minimum duration 4 h (can be split into several dates), 20 participants per event
* full requirements: [https://meet-and-code.org/de/de/conditions-of-participation conditions of participation]
* Keno thinks he could find several KI tutors from his work
* Keno could also do git and Python primers for sure
* Koen has a computational modeling workshop in mind
* further ideas welcome! Let's discuss everything and write applications for several worthwhile concepts :-)

Revision as of 19:21, 14 June 2023

Topics

Topic 0: Show & Tell

previously on slack...

  • Idea of doing a short show and tell of projects at the beginning
  • problem: Acquisition of presenters -how to solve?
    • Mitja: We should just try an open slot and if volunteers are there, let's go

Today's volunteer: Joel - Project:Robot Arm

Topic 1: Gaming Corner

  • It's there and beautiful!
  • unfortunately the radio signal at the new location is poor, there are random blackouts (loud crashing noise)

Topic 2: New Bandsaw

previously on slack...

  • Discussion about getting a new bandsaw ongoing
  • Current bandsaw is on long-term loan and not suitable for resawing thick planks
  • Need someone to identify a suitable model
  • Financial constraints make immediate purchase unlikely
  • Gathering interest and willingness to help with funding suggested
  • Mention of a potential model: Holzbandsäge MJ14 from paulimot.de
  • Mention of another potential model: [Premium 12" Bandsaw from recordpower.co.uk]
  • Suggestion of considering a second-hand bandsaw for cost savings but concerns about maintenance and quality
  • Alternative suggestion of building a bandsaw ourselves using a DIY guide from woodgears.ca --> difficult: takes a lot of work and might not be safe/durable in the end!

new option: bundle of machines from the university for 5000 €

  • the bandsaw alone (Mössner Rekord 320, 210 mm workpiece height) is worth about 3500 €, a big CNC mill worth >30000 € refurbished
  • where to get the money (quick)?!
    • betterplace donations! Keno could already prepare a campaign
    • kickstarter style campaign with "rewards" like xy laser minutes?
    • Privatdarlehen to buy time?
    • can we somehow sell some old machines, perhaps via a reseller who will take care of refurbishing? Especially the large CNC mill might be too much for us
      • other CNC mill/router are under-used due to difficulty and lack of documentation
      • is there enough power (400 V, probably 32 A?)
  • big question: how long until we have to decide?

Topic 3: Getting a Plasma Cutter

previously on slack...

  • Description of a plasma cutter as a tool for cutting complex geometries out of metal plates
  • Cost estimation of a plasma cutter at around 300-400 Euro
  • Suggestion of a YouTube video showcasing a mostly printed CNC plasma cutter
  • Discussion about the absence of volunteers to maintain the CNC
  • Inquiry about the usefulness and price range of a plasma cutter
  • Criteria for acquiring new tools discussed, including financing, maintenance, and impact on the space and other tools
  • Agreement that a plasma cutter could be considered if the criteria are met
  • Previous focus on the welding area before considering a plasma cutter
  • Mention of advantages of a plasma cutter for building molds for Precious Plastic
  • Suggestion of considering a cored wire welding machine for advantages in the metalworking area
  • today's opinion: nice idea, but not a priority
    • the welding area is still not usable, which should be taken care of before the next diy machine
    • the current machine offer (Topic 2) would probably bind the available resources (money and metalworking experts) if we decide to go for it

Topic 4: Repair Café

Date: Sat July 8th, 14:00-18:00

  • we need helpers: organizers (mainly need to know their way around the Space) and/or repairers!
  • Rolf will see whether he can do electric checks again
  • other members present are probably not available
  • please join the interest group on Slack: #topic-repair

Topic 5: Do-Something-Day

  • We need organizers for the next do something day
  • No key necessary, we will unlock you ;)
  • Philipp is interested and will pick a date!

Topic 6: Meet and Code

Up to 500 € funding for workshops around programming for kids/youth in September or October - deadline for applications: Sep 13th

  • Keno thinks he could find several KI tutors from his work
  • Keno could also do git and Python primers for sure
  • Koen has a computational modeling workshop in mind
  • further ideas welcome! Let's discuss everything and write applications for several worthwhile concepts :-)
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