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Here we collect our experiences with CNC [[milling]] or [[routing]] different materials. Please add more information if you try something new (success or not)! | Here we collect our experiences with CNC [[milling]] or [[routing]] different materials. Please add more information if you try something new (whether it's a success or not)! | ||
== [[Wood]] & [[Engineered Woods]] == | == [[Wood]] & [[Engineered Woods]] == | ||
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| 2D contour | | 2D contour | ||
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | ||
| 1 | | 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 2000 mm/min | | 2000 mm/min | ||
| 3 mm | | 3 mm | ||
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| 2D contour | | 2D contour | ||
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM") | | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM") | ||
| 3-4 | | 21000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "3-4" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 1000 mm/min | | 1000 mm/min | ||
| 2 mm | | 2 mm | ||
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| pocket clearing | | pocket clearing | ||
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | ||
| 1 | | 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 2000 mm/min | | 2000 mm/min | ||
| 3 mm | | 3 mm | ||
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| 2D chamfer | | 2D chamfer | ||
| 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4 | | 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4 | ||
| 1 | | 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 2000 mm/min | | 2000 mm/min | ||
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| pocket operation | | pocket operation | ||
| 1 mm flat endmill | | 1 mm flat endmill | ||
| 1 | | 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 400 mm/min | | 400 mm/min | ||
| 2 mm | | 2 mm | ||
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| drilling holes, pocket | | drilling holes, pocket | ||
| 1/4 inch [https://octopart.com/1620-2500.500-avx+%2F+kyocera-84247055 Kyocera 1620 - 2500.500] flat endmill, 2 flute | | 1/4 inch [https://octopart.com/1620-2500.500-avx+%2F+kyocera-84247055 Kyocera 1620 - 2500.500] flat endmill, 2 flute | ||
| | | 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 1000 mm/min | | 1000 mm/min | ||
| 2. | | 2.5 mm | ||
| 333 mm/min | | 333 mm/min | ||
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=== Plywood === | |||
Most kinds of [[plywood]] should work, but of course you only get out what you put in - Micha has had bad experiences with pine plywood as it is much too soft and likes to warp. | |||
== [[Plastics]] == | == [[Plastics]] == | ||
[[Material:PC|Polycarbonate]] works better than [[PMMA|acrylic glass]]. | |||
=== [[Acrylic Glass]] === | === [[Acrylic Glass]] === | ||
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| pocket operation | | pocket operation | ||
| [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute | | [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute | ||
| 1 | | 17000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1-2" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 660 mm/min | | 660 mm/min | ||
| 0.4 mm | | 0.4 mm | ||
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== Polycarbonate == | === [[Polycarbonate]] === | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
! operation | ! operation | ||
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| pocket operation & contur | | pocket operation & contur | ||
| [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute | | [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute | ||
| 1 | | 17000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1-2" on DeWalt 611]) | ||
| 900 mm/min | | 900 mm/min | ||
| 0.8 mm | | 0.8 mm | ||
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=== [[POM]] === | |||
==== Bits ==== | |||
tested with 2 and 3 fluted HSS endmills (4-6 mm, but no indication against any other diameters) | |||
==== RPM, Speeds, etc. ==== | |||
[[WorkBee]] spindle on level 1 (16000 rpm; [https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 DeWalt 611]) | |||
* Schnittvorschub: 500mm/min + | |||
* Einfahrvorschub: 500mm/min + | |||
* Ausfahrvorschub: 500mm/min + | |||
* Helixvorschub: 200mm/min + | |||
* Eintauchvorschub: 30mm/min | |||
* Depths: 2-3mm | |||
Strongly advise a horizontal ''Rohteilaufmaß'' and a final finishing cut to remove any "layer" marks. | |||
==== Cooling ==== | |||
Not neccessary with the current settings but might increase the cutting speeds drastically | |||
== [[Metals]] == | |||
=== [[Aluminum]] === | |||
Possible on the [[WorkBee]] with a lot of patience and the correct bits, but check if it's millable aluminum | |||
* different alloys of aluminum containing Cu, Si, Pb | |||
==== Bits ==== | |||
* maximum two cutting sides | |||
* carbide is more rigid than HSS and advised by some online guides | |||
* tested 4 mm 2-sided pointy-end bit with acceptable success | |||
==== RPM, Speeds, etc. ==== | |||
Values are only the tested ones, faster CAN be possible as well | |||
* slow rpm: 16 000 is the WorkBee's default minimum but e.g. for a 4 mm bit, 6000 rpm would be better | |||
** different spindle or PID-ing? | |||
* Feed Rate/Schnittvorschub: ~200 mm/min | |||
* Einfahrvorschub: 15-20 mm/min | |||
* Ausfahrvorschub: 200 mm/min | |||
* Helixvorschub: 15-25 mm/min | |||
* Eintauchvorschub: 15 mm/min | |||
* Depths: 0.25mm per pass | |||
Milling directions (to be tested): Conventional/Up-Cut (Gleichlauf) milling milling for the basic different passes with a finish using Climb-milling/Down-Cut milling (= Gegenlauf) | |||
==== Cooling ==== | |||
Not yet tested | |||
* any sort of lubricant or coolant will increase the efficiency of aluminum milling | |||
** there are suggestions ranging from cutting fluid over WD-40 to candle wax for lubing | |||
** as coolant, a water or alcohol mist is incompatible with the WorkBee's MDF spoilboard | |||
*** instead, using the air [[compressor]] might be a possiblity | |||
[[Category:CNC]] | [[Category:CNC]] | ||
[[Category:Woodworking]] | [[Category:Woodworking]] |
Latest revision as of 15:50, 25 November 2018
Here we collect our experiences with CNC milling or routing different materials. Please add more information if you try something new (whether it's a success or not)!
Wood & Engineered Woods
MDF
operation | mill | spindle speed | feedrate | pass depth | plunge rate | results | comments |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
2D contour | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) | 2000 mm/min | 3 mm | excellent | black (Bauhaus)
| |
2D contour | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM") | 21000 rpm ("3-4" on DeWalt 611) | 1000 mm/min | 2 mm | terrible | Bauhaus
| |
pocket clearing | 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) | 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) | 2000 mm/min | 3 mm | excellent | black (Valchromat) | |
2D chamfer | 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4 | 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) | 2000 mm/min | excellent | black (Valchromat) | ||
pocket operation | 1 mm flat endmill | 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) | 400 mm/min | 2 mm | excellent | black (Bauhaus) | |
drilling holes, pocket | 1/4 inch Kyocera 1620 - 2500.500 flat endmill, 2 flute | 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) | 1000 mm/min | 2.5 mm | 333 mm/min |
Plywood
Most kinds of plywood should work, but of course you only get out what you put in - Micha has had bad experiences with pine plywood as it is much too soft and likes to warp.
Plastics
Polycarbonate works better than acrylic glass.
Acrylic Glass
operation | mill | spindle speed | feedrate | pass depth | plunge rate | results | comments |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
pocket operation | 3 mm flat endmill, 4 flute | 17000 rpm ("1-2" on DeWalt 611) | 660 mm/min | 0.4 mm | quite good |
|
Polycarbonate
operation | mill | spindle speed | feedrate | pass depth | plunge rate | results | comments |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
pocket operation & contur | 3 mm flat endmill, 4 flute | 17000 rpm ("1-2" on DeWalt 611) | 900 mm/min | 0.8 mm | 660 mm/min | quite good |
POM
Bits
tested with 2 and 3 fluted HSS endmills (4-6 mm, but no indication against any other diameters)
RPM, Speeds, etc.
WorkBee spindle on level 1 (16000 rpm; DeWalt 611)
- Schnittvorschub: 500mm/min +
- Einfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
- Ausfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
- Helixvorschub: 200mm/min +
- Eintauchvorschub: 30mm/min
- Depths: 2-3mm
Strongly advise a horizontal Rohteilaufmaß and a final finishing cut to remove any "layer" marks.
Cooling
Not neccessary with the current settings but might increase the cutting speeds drastically
Metals
Aluminum
Possible on the WorkBee with a lot of patience and the correct bits, but check if it's millable aluminum
- different alloys of aluminum containing Cu, Si, Pb
Bits
- maximum two cutting sides
- carbide is more rigid than HSS and advised by some online guides
- tested 4 mm 2-sided pointy-end bit with acceptable success
RPM, Speeds, etc.
Values are only the tested ones, faster CAN be possible as well
- slow rpm: 16 000 is the WorkBee's default minimum but e.g. for a 4 mm bit, 6000 rpm would be better
- different spindle or PID-ing?
- Feed Rate/Schnittvorschub: ~200 mm/min
- Einfahrvorschub: 15-20 mm/min
- Ausfahrvorschub: 200 mm/min
- Helixvorschub: 15-25 mm/min
- Eintauchvorschub: 15 mm/min
- Depths: 0.25mm per pass
Milling directions (to be tested): Conventional/Up-Cut (Gleichlauf) milling milling for the basic different passes with a finish using Climb-milling/Down-Cut milling (= Gegenlauf)
Cooling
Not yet tested
- any sort of lubricant or coolant will increase the efficiency of aluminum milling
- there are suggestions ranging from cutting fluid over WD-40 to candle wax for lubing
- as coolant, a water or alcohol mist is incompatible with the WorkBee's MDF spoilboard
- instead, using the air compressor might be a possiblity