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== Materials and Tools ==
Here we collect our experiences with CNC [[milling]] or [[routing]] different materials. Please add more information if you try something new (whether it's a success or not)!


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== [[Wood]] & [[Engineered Woods]] ==
! material
=== [[MDF]] ===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! operation
! operation
! mill
! mill
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! comments
! comments
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|-
| black [[MDF]], 19mm (Bauhaus)
| 2D contour
| 2D contour
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI)
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI)
| 1
| 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611])
| 2000 mm/min
| 2000 mm/min
| 3 mm
| 3 mm
|  
|  
| excellent
| excellent
|
| black (Bauhaus)
* two roughing and one finishing pass
* two roughing and one finishing pass
* tabs to hold down work piece
* tabs to hold down work piece
|-
|-
| MDF, 19mm (Bauhaus)
| 2D contour
| 2D contour
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM")
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM")
| 3-4
| 21000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "3-4" on DeWalt 611])
| 1000 mm/min
| 1000 mm/min
| 2 mm
| 2 mm
|  
|  
| terrible
| <span style="color:red">terrible</span>
|
| Bauhaus
* loss of steps or drift along x-axis
* loss of steps or drift along x-axis
* overheated mill, black, dull
* overheated mill, black, dull
|-
|-
| black MDF, 19mm (Valchromat)
| pocket clearing
| pocket clearing
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI)
| 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI)
| 1
| 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611])
| 2000 mm/min
| 2000 mm/min
| 3 mm
| 3 mm
|  
|  
| excellent
| excellent
|
| black (Valchromat)
|-
|-
| black MDF, 19mm (Valchromat)
| 2D chamfer
| 2D chamfer
| 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4
| 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4
| 1
| 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611])
| 2000 mm/min
| 2000 mm/min
|
|
|  
|  
| excellent
| excellent
|
| black (Valchromat)
|-
|-
| black MDF, 19mm (Bauhaus)
| pocket operation
| pocket operation
| 1 mm flat endmill
| 1 mm flat endmill
| 1
| 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611])
| 400 mm/min
| 400 mm/min
| 2 mm
| 2 mm
|  
|  
| excellent
| excellent
|  
| black (Bauhaus)
|-
| drilling holes, pocket
| 1/4 inch [https://octopart.com/1620-2500.500-avx+%2F+kyocera-84247055 Kyocera 1620 - 2500.500] flat endmill, 2 flute
| 16000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1" on DeWalt 611])
| 1000 mm/min
| 2.5 mm
| 333 mm/min
|
|}
 
=== Plywood ===
Most kinds of [[plywood]] should work, but of course you only get out what you put in - Micha has had bad experiences with pine plywood as it is much too soft and likes to warp.
 
 
 
== [[Plastics]] ==
[[Material:PC|Polycarbonate]] works better than [[PMMA|acrylic glass]].
 
=== [[Acrylic Glass]] ===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! operation
! mill
! spindle speed
! feedrate
! pass depth
! plunge rate
! results
! comments
|-
|-
| acrylic glass, 10mm
| pocket operation
| pocket operation
| [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute
| [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute
| 1.5
| 17000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1-2" on DeWalt 611])
| 660 mm/min
| 660 mm/min
| 0.4 mm
| 0.4 mm
|  
|  
| quite good
| quite good
| * bottom a little rough
|
* bottom a little rough
|}
|}
=== [[Polycarbonate]] ===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! operation
! mill
! spindle speed
! feedrate
! pass depth
! plunge rate
! results
! comments
|-
| pocket operation & contur
| [https://www.ebay.de/itm/3mm-Vollhartmetall-Fräser-Schaftfräser-Kunststoff-Holz-VHM-Schaft-3x50mm-TiAlN/232529354561?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 3 mm flat endmill], 4 flute
| 17000 rpm ([https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 "1-2" on DeWalt 611])
| 900 mm/min
| 0.8 mm
| 660 mm/min
| quite good
|
|}
=== [[POM]] ===
==== Bits ====
tested with 2 and 3 fluted HSS endmills (4-6 mm, but no indication against any other diameters)
==== RPM, Speeds, etc. ====
[[WorkBee]] spindle on level 1 (16000 rpm; [https://discuss.inventables.com/t/spindel-speed-on-a-dewalt-611/37790/3 DeWalt 611])
* Schnittvorschub: 500mm/min +
* Einfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
* Ausfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
* Helixvorschub:  200mm/min +
* Eintauchvorschub: 30mm/min
* Depths: 2-3mm
Strongly advise a horizontal ''Rohteilaufmaß'' and a final finishing cut to remove any "layer" marks.
==== Cooling ====
Not neccessary with the current settings but might increase the cutting speeds drastically
== [[Metals]] ==
=== [[Aluminum]] ===
Possible on the [[WorkBee]] with a lot of patience and the correct bits, but check if it's millable aluminum
* different alloys of aluminum containing Cu, Si, Pb
==== Bits ====
* maximum two cutting sides
* carbide is more rigid than HSS and advised by some online guides
* tested 4 mm 2-sided pointy-end bit with acceptable success
==== RPM, Speeds, etc. ====
Values are only the tested ones, faster CAN be possible as well
* slow rpm: 16 000 is the WorkBee's default minimum but e.g. for a 4 mm bit, 6000 rpm would be better 
** different spindle or PID-ing?
* Feed Rate/Schnittvorschub: ~200 mm/min
* Einfahrvorschub: 15-20 mm/min
* Ausfahrvorschub: 200 mm/min
* Helixvorschub: 15-25 mm/min
* Eintauchvorschub: 15 mm/min
* Depths: 0.25mm per pass
Milling directions (to be tested): Conventional/Up-Cut (Gleichlauf) milling milling for the basic different passes with a finish using Climb-milling/Down-Cut milling (= Gegenlauf)
==== Cooling ====
Not yet tested
* any sort of lubricant or coolant will increase the efficiency of aluminum milling
** there are suggestions ranging from cutting fluid over WD-40 to candle wax for lubing
** as coolant, a water or alcohol mist is incompatible with the WorkBee's MDF spoilboard
*** instead, using the air [[compressor]] might be a possiblity


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Latest revision as of 15:50, 25 November 2018

Here we collect our experiences with CNC milling or routing different materials. Please add more information if you try something new (whether it's a success or not)!

Wood & Engineered Woods

MDF

operation mill spindle speed feedrate pass depth plunge rate results comments
2D contour 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) 2000 mm/min 3 mm excellent black (Bauhaus)
  • two roughing and one finishing pass
  • tabs to hold down work piece
2D contour 8 mm flat endmill, Z=3 (cheap "VHM") 21000 rpm ("3-4" on DeWalt 611) 1000 mm/min 2 mm terrible Bauhaus
  • loss of steps or drift along x-axis
  • overheated mill, black, dull
pocket clearing 8 mm flat endmill, Z=2 (Sorotec UNI) 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) 2000 mm/min 3 mm excellent black (Valchromat)
2D chamfer 8 mm chamfer mill, Z=4 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) 2000 mm/min excellent black (Valchromat)
pocket operation 1 mm flat endmill 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) 400 mm/min 2 mm excellent black (Bauhaus)
drilling holes, pocket 1/4 inch Kyocera 1620 - 2500.500 flat endmill, 2 flute 16000 rpm ("1" on DeWalt 611) 1000 mm/min 2.5 mm 333 mm/min

Plywood

Most kinds of plywood should work, but of course you only get out what you put in - Micha has had bad experiences with pine plywood as it is much too soft and likes to warp.


Plastics

Polycarbonate works better than acrylic glass.

Acrylic Glass

operation mill spindle speed feedrate pass depth plunge rate results comments
pocket operation 3 mm flat endmill, 4 flute 17000 rpm ("1-2" on DeWalt 611) 660 mm/min 0.4 mm quite good
  • bottom a little rough

Polycarbonate

operation mill spindle speed feedrate pass depth plunge rate results comments
pocket operation & contur 3 mm flat endmill, 4 flute 17000 rpm ("1-2" on DeWalt 611) 900 mm/min 0.8 mm 660 mm/min quite good

POM

Bits

tested with 2 and 3 fluted HSS endmills (4-6 mm, but no indication against any other diameters)

RPM, Speeds, etc.

WorkBee spindle on level 1 (16000 rpm; DeWalt 611)

  • Schnittvorschub: 500mm/min +
  • Einfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
  • Ausfahrvorschub: 500mm/min +
  • Helixvorschub: 200mm/min +
  • Eintauchvorschub: 30mm/min
  • Depths: 2-3mm

Strongly advise a horizontal Rohteilaufmaß and a final finishing cut to remove any "layer" marks.

Cooling

Not neccessary with the current settings but might increase the cutting speeds drastically


Metals

Aluminum

Possible on the WorkBee with a lot of patience and the correct bits, but check if it's millable aluminum

  • different alloys of aluminum containing Cu, Si, Pb

Bits

  • maximum two cutting sides
  • carbide is more rigid than HSS and advised by some online guides
  • tested 4 mm 2-sided pointy-end bit with acceptable success

RPM, Speeds, etc.

Values are only the tested ones, faster CAN be possible as well

  • slow rpm: 16 000 is the WorkBee's default minimum but e.g. for a 4 mm bit, 6000 rpm would be better
    • different spindle or PID-ing?
  • Feed Rate/Schnittvorschub: ~200 mm/min
  • Einfahrvorschub: 15-20 mm/min
  • Ausfahrvorschub: 200 mm/min
  • Helixvorschub: 15-25 mm/min
  • Eintauchvorschub: 15 mm/min
  • Depths: 0.25mm per pass

Milling directions (to be tested): Conventional/Up-Cut (Gleichlauf) milling milling for the basic different passes with a finish using Climb-milling/Down-Cut milling (= Gegenlauf)

Cooling

Not yet tested

  • any sort of lubricant or coolant will increase the efficiency of aluminum milling
    • there are suggestions ranging from cutting fluid over WD-40 to candle wax for lubing
    • as coolant, a water or alcohol mist is incompatible with the WorkBee's MDF spoilboard
      • instead, using the air compressor might be a possiblity