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We have wood lathes in the [[Wood Workshop|wood workshop]] that we can use as an entry to [[woodturning]] - if a community of turning enthusiasts develops and the machines becomes too weak for more ambitious projects, we'll have to think about replacing them with a professional model.
{{MachineInfoBox
|machine name=Wood Lathes
|image=woodturning - notches by skew chisel.gif
|synonyms=woodturning lathes; DE: Drechselbänke,<br>Drechselmaschinen
|type=[[lathe]]
|material=[[Woodturning Blanks|woodturning blanks]]
|location=[[Location::Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|access=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|tutors=[[Tutor::User:Lukas|Lukas]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|similar=[[Metal Lathe|metal lathe]]
|extrabox=yes
}}
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We have wood lathes in the [[Wood Workshop|wood workshop]] that can be used as an entry to [[woodturning]] - once a community of turning enthusiasts develops and the machines become too weak for more ambitious projects, we can think about replacing them with a professional model.


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==Güde 1000==
==Güde 1000==
{{MachineInfoBox
{{MachineInfoBox
|machine name=Güde 1000
|machine name=Güde 1000
|image=Güde Drechselbank uninstalled.JPG
|german=Drechselbänke
|synonyms=woodturning lathe; DE: Drechselbank,<br>Drechselmaschine
|image=Güde 1000.JPG
|type=[[lathe]]
|type=[[lathe]]
|material=[[wood]]
|material=[[Woodturning Blanks|woodturning blanks]]
|location=[[Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|location=[[Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|access=upon [[Woodturning Introduction|personal introduction]]
|access=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|status=just arrived, [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/7 needs some care]
|status=functional<br>([https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/7 needs some more documentation])
|firmware=
|software=
|manual=[https://www.guede.com/sys/dl/00501_ml.pdf Guede.com]
|manual=[https://www.guede.com/sys/dl/00501_ml.pdf Guede.com]
|tutors=(soon) [[Lukas]]
|tutors=[[Lukas]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|similar=[[Metal Lathe|metal lathe]]
}}
{{Commissioning
|IssueNumber=7
|Naming=Done
|NamingComment=Güde 1000
|Picture=Done
|PictureComment=
|Manual=Done
|ManualComment=
|Documentation=
|DocumentationComment={{NL}}: See github for details on what is still missing.
|QR=done
|QRComment=
|Introduction=done
|IntroductionComment=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|Security=done
|SecurityComment=[[Lukas]]
|Test=done
|TestComment=[[Lukas]]
|OwnerValue=done
|OwnerValueComment=
|Availability=
|AvailabilityComment=
}}
}}
The "Güde" wood lathe is very simple, but okay for learning how to turn wood.
=== Caution - Overheats Old Fuses ===
This lathe may trip an old-fashioned fuse (circuit breaker, ''Sicherung'') when turned off an on repeatedly as every start of the motor draws a lot of power. To prevent this issue, plug the lathe into the "modern" black/white outlet box below the main power ''Verteiler'' to the right of the lathe! Please ask a [[tutor]] or [[manager]] if you're not sure about any of this.


=== Specs ===
=== Specs ===
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* motor: 370 W
* motor: 370 W
* spindle thread: M18
* spindle thread: M18
* workholding options: drive center (''Vielzack-Stirnmitnehmer/"Dornenkrone"''), four-jaw chuck, faceplate
* workholding options: drive center (''Vielzack-Stirnmitnehmer/"Dornenkrone"''), <strike>four-jaw chuck, faceplate</strike> (wrong thread)


=== Speed selection ===
=== Speed Selection ===
The lathe can run at various speeds depending on which pulleys are connected by the belt (picture on the housing). '''Do not put excessive tension on the belt - you'll be very happy about the belt slipping in case you've made a mistake and the tool digs into the workpiece!'''
The lathe can run at various speeds depending on which pulleys are connected by the belt (picture on the housing). '''Do not put excessive tension on the belt - you'll be very happy about the belt slipping in case you've made a mistake and the tool digs into the workpiece!'''


=== Upgrades/Improvements ===
=== Upgrades/Improvements ===
We should soon tweak this machine to improve usability:
We have tweaked this machine to improve usability (also see [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/7 issue #7]) :
* replace pulley adjustment and casing screws by thumbwheels or so
* [[Johannes]] and [[Lukas]] [[weld]]ed two spots onto the tailstock screw so it doesn't turn past its intended blocker anymore (gap was too wide)
* add a clamping lever to the tool rest's nut
* [[Patrick]] made the tool rest rock solid by removing the grub screw that pressed against the vertical rod and drilling a threaded hole into the rod instead
* <strike>buy (or turn on the [[Metal Lathe|metal lathe]]) an [https://drechslershop.de/drechselfutter-mitnehmer-planscheiben/adapter/adapter-m-33-din-800m-18-x-25.html 18 to 33 mm adapter] (to match common accessories like faceplates)
* [[Lukas]] is [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/119 working on a lathe-mounted disc sander]
* buy (or make) a faceplate</strike> ''Micha brought in enough accessories for the start :-)''
 
In addition, these accessories might be interesting in the future:
* buy (or turn on the [[Metal Lathe|metal lathe]]) an [https://drechslershop.de/drechselfutter-mitnehmer-planscheiben/adapter/adapter-m-33-din-800m-18-x-25.html 18 to 33 mm adapter] (to match commonly sold accessories like faceplates)
* buy (or make) a faceplate
** can be made like the plate of the [[Disc Sander|disc sander]] (just much smaller)
** [https://turnawoodbowl.com/wood-lathe-faceplate-never-do-this-8-things/ "8 things not to do with faceplates"] - sizing, attaching etc
 
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== Holzmann D 460F ==
{{MachineInfoBox
|machine name=Holzmann D 460F
|image=Holzmann D460F.jpg
|type=[[lathe]]
|material=[[Woodturning Blanks|woodturning blanks]]
|location=[[Location::Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|access=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|status=operational
|manual=''[http://download.maschinenhandel-gronau.de/MANUAL_D_460_460F_DE.pdf maschinenhandel-gronau.de (DE)]''
|tutors=[[Lukas]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|extrabox=yes}}
 
 
SAFETY NOTE: Make sure you lock the box with the on/off switch in place before use! DO NOT start the lathe when it can swivel, you may not be able to safely turn it off then and the belt/pulleys are exposed!
 
=== Specs ===
[[File:toy wheel turning 6.JPG|thumb|right|250 px|this lathe can be used with a drill chuck!]]
* max. workpiece diameter: 254 mm
* max. workpiece length: 450 mm
* spindle speeds: 650-3800 rpm (variable)
* motor: 370 W
* spindle thread: M33
* workholding options:
** headstock: four-jaw chuck
** tailstock: morse taper - accessories: rotating center, drill chuck
 
=== Speed Selection ===
The D 460F has an electronic speed selection which is regulated by a potentiometer (without scale!) above the on/off switch.
 
=== Upgrades/Improvements ===
Ideas:
* it would be nice to fix the control box more properly - this should be coordinated with Micha Ba. who is the machine's owner!
* get/make a faceplate and a drive center for more workholding flexibility


== Triton TWSS10 ==
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== Tyme Avon ==
{{MachineInfoBox
{{MachineInfoBox
|machine name=Triton TWSS10
|machine name=Tyme Avon
|image=Triton TWSS10.jpg
|image=
|synonyms=woodturning lathe; DE: Drechselbank,<br>Drechselmaschine
|type=[[lathe]]
|type=[[lathe]]
|material=[[wood]]
|material=[[Woodturning Blanks|woodturning blanks]]
|location=[[Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|location=[[Location::Wood Workshop|wood workshop]]
|access=upon [[Woodturning Introduction|personal introduction]]
|access=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|status=in [[commissioning]]
|status=in commissioning (not yet usable)
|firmware=
|software=
|manual=
|manual=
|tutors=(soon) [[Lukas]]
|tutors=[[Lukas]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|used with=[[Face Shield|face shield]], [[Woodturning Tools|woodturning tools]]
|similar=[[Metal Lathe|metal lathe]]
|extrabox=for now
}}
}}
{{Commissioning
{{Commissioning
|IssueNumber=
|IssueNumber=
|Naming=Done
|Naming=
|NamingComment=Triton TWSS10
|NamingComment=Tyme Avon
|Picture=Done
|Picture=
|PictureComment=
|PictureComment=
|Manual=
|Manual=
|ManualComment=
|ManualComment=print version for sale (expensive) [http://www.lathes.co.uk/tyme/ here]
|Documentation=
|Documentation=
|DocumentationComment=
|DocumentationComment=explain (& photograph?) all major accessories and setup options; possible starting point besides manual: http://www.lathes.co.uk/tyme/
|QR=
|QR=
|QRComment=
|QRComment=
|Introduction=done
|Introduction=
|IntroductionComment=[[Woodturning Introduction]]
|IntroductionComment=[[Woodturning Introduction]] may need slight changes - TBD
|Security=
|Security=
|SecurityComment=
|SecurityComment=needs EU plug - and also a longer cord while we're at it?; belt runs into the side of its pulleys -> shim the motor to move it out approx. 1 mm?
|Test=
|Test=
|TestComment=
|TestComment=
|OwnerValue=done
|OwnerValue=
|OwnerValueComment=[[Lukas]]
|OwnerValueComment=donated by Joe; value not yet known
|Availability=
|Availability=
|AvailabilityComment=
|AvailabilityComment=
}}
}}
We have got another wood lathe, which needs some documentation before it can actually be used.
=== Specs ===
* max. workpiece diameter: ??
* max. workpiece length:??
* spindle speeds: ??
* motor: ??
* spindle thread: ??
* workholding options: ??
=== Speed selection ===
???
=== Upgrades/Improvements ===
????




Revision as of 22:20, 24 April 2022

MachineInfoBox

Wood Lathes

Woodturning - notches by skew chisel.gif
Synonyms: woodturning lathes; DE: Drechselbänke,
Drechselmaschinen
Type: [[lathe]]
Material: woodturning blanks
Used with: face shield, woodturning tools
Location: wood workshop
Access Requirements: Woodturning IntroductionThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.
Tutors: LukasThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.
Similar (More or Less): metal lathe



[[MachineType::lathe| ]]



We have wood lathes in the wood workshop that can be used as an entry to woodturning - once a community of turning enthusiasts develops and the machines become too weak for more ambitious projects, we can think about replacing them with a professional model.


Güde 1000

MachineInfoBox

Güde 1000

Güde 1000.JPG
Type: [[lathe]]
Material: woodturning blanks
Used with: face shield, woodturning tools
Location: wood workshop
Access Requirements: Woodturning IntroductionThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.
Status: [[Has InfoBox Status::functional
(needs some more documentation)]]
Manual: Guede.com
Tutors: LukasThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.

[[Has caption::lathe| ]]

[[MachineType::lathe| ]]



The "Güde" wood lathe is very simple, but okay for learning how to turn wood.

Caution - Overheats Old Fuses

This lathe may trip an old-fashioned fuse (circuit breaker, Sicherung) when turned off an on repeatedly as every start of the motor draws a lot of power. To prevent this issue, plug the lathe into the "modern" black/white outlet box below the main power Verteiler to the right of the lathe! Please ask a tutor or manager if you're not sure about any of this.

Specs

  • max. workpiece diameter: 320 mm
  • max. workpiece length: 1000 mm
  • spindle speeds: 850 - 1250 - 1750 - 2510 rpm
  • motor: 370 W
  • spindle thread: M18
  • workholding options: drive center (Vielzack-Stirnmitnehmer/"Dornenkrone"), four-jaw chuck, faceplate (wrong thread)

Speed Selection

The lathe can run at various speeds depending on which pulleys are connected by the belt (picture on the housing). Do not put excessive tension on the belt - you'll be very happy about the belt slipping in case you've made a mistake and the tool digs into the workpiece!

Upgrades/Improvements

We have tweaked this machine to improve usability (also see issue #7) :

In addition, these accessories might be interesting in the future:


Holzmann D 460F

MachineInfoBox

Holzmann D 460F

Holzmann D460F.jpg
Type: [[lathe]]
Material: woodturning blanks
Used with: face shield, woodturning tools
Location: wood workshop
Access Requirements: Woodturning IntroductionThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.
Status: operational
Manual: maschinenhandel-gronau.de (DE)
Tutors: LukasThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.



[[MachineType::lathe| ]]




SAFETY NOTE: Make sure you lock the box with the on/off switch in place before use! DO NOT start the lathe when it can swivel, you may not be able to safely turn it off then and the belt/pulleys are exposed!

Specs

this lathe can be used with a drill chuck!
  • max. workpiece diameter: 254 mm
  • max. workpiece length: 450 mm
  • spindle speeds: 650-3800 rpm (variable)
  • motor: 370 W
  • spindle thread: M33
  • workholding options:
    • headstock: four-jaw chuck
    • tailstock: morse taper - accessories: rotating center, drill chuck

Speed Selection

The D 460F has an electronic speed selection which is regulated by a potentiometer (without scale!) above the on/off switch.

Upgrades/Improvements

Ideas:

  • it would be nice to fix the control box more properly - this should be coordinated with Micha Ba. who is the machine's owner!
  • get/make a faceplate and a drive center for more workholding flexibility


Tyme Avon

MachineInfoBox

Tyme Avon

Machine-default.png
Type: [[lathe]]
Material: woodturning blanks
Used with: face shield, woodturning tools
Location: wood workshop
Access Requirements: Woodturning IntroductionThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.
Status: in commissioning (not yet usable)
Tutors: LukasThe part "]]" of the query was not understood.</br>Results might not be as expected.



[[MachineType::lathe| ]]




This tool is not ready for use yet since not all commissioning steps have been completed. The process is not yet tracked on GitHub. Feel free to contribute to making it usable, any help is very welcome!

Task comment Status
Name the tool: Tyme Avon pending
Take a picture - pending
Find the manual as PDF print version for sale (expensive) here pending
Documentation explain (& photograph?) all major accessories and setup options; possible starting point besides manual: http://www.lathes.co.uk/tyme/ pending
Print QR-Code use the wikicrawler pending
Introduction Woodturning Introduction may need slight changes - TBD pending
Security Check needs EU plug - and also a longer cord while we're at it?; belt runs into the side of its pulleys -> shim the motor to move it out approx. 1 mm? pending
Test to be done or witnessed by a manager pending
tool's name, owner and approx. value donated by Joe; value not yet known pending
Last step: make it available physically and in the wiki - then delete this template pending



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