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{{MachineInfoBox
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|machine name=Myford ML7 (Serial No. K51412)
|machine name=Myford ML7 (Serial No. K51412)
|image=lathe restoration.JPG
|german=Drehmaschinen
|image=Myford_ML7.JPG
|synonyms=metalworking lathe, engine lathe,<br>machinists' lathe; DE: "Drehbank",<br>Zug- und Leitspindeldrehmaschine,<br>"Drehe"
|synonyms=metalworking lathe, engine lathe,<br>machinists' lathe; DE: "Drehbank",<br>Zug- und Leitspindeldrehmaschine,<br>"Drehe"
|location=[[Location::Metal Workshop|metal workshop]]
|location=[[Location::Metal Workshop|metal workshop]]
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We restored it to working condition (see [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/4 corresponding issue]) and will add more and more information as we gain more experience!
We restored it to working condition (see [https://github.com/comakingspace/do-something/issues/4 corresponding issue]) and will add more and more information as we gain more experience!
[[File:Lathe restoration.JPG|300px|thumb|left|Restauration of the metal lathe]]


=== Lubrication ===
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===Lubrication===
[[File:Lathe Oil Nipples.png|300px|thumb|left|Locations of all oil nipples]]
[[File:Lathe Oil Nipples.png|300px|thumb|left|Locations of all oil nipples]]


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The [https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/VG32-LUBRICATING-OIL---ESSO-NUTO-32---1-LITRE-662.html manufacturer's recommendation] is "Esso Nuto 32" gear oil but we are using a more viscous "90" oil as that was available to us and two trusted sources ensured us it should work just fine.
The [https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/VG32-LUBRICATING-OIL---ESSO-NUTO-32---1-LITRE-662.html manufacturer's recommendation] is "Esso Nuto 32" gear oil but we are using a more viscous "90" oil as that was available to us and two trusted sources ensured us it should work just fine.


==== Oil Nipples ====
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====Oil Nipples====
According to the manufacturer's [https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/Myford_ML7.html assembly diagrams], there should be 3 oil nipples on the carriage, 2 on the "motorizing" section, 1 on the tailstock, 2 on the headstock and 2 on the "bed, leadscrew and gear train" section for a total of 10 nipples. However, one of those (on the headstock, inside a belt pulley for whatever reason) is currently not installed as it is very difficult to reach.
According to the manufacturer's [https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/Myford_ML7.html assembly diagrams], there should be 3 oil nipples on the carriage, 2 on the "motorizing" section, 1 on the tailstock, 2 on the headstock and 2 on the "bed, leadscrew and gear train" section for a total of 10 nipples. However, one of those (on the headstock, inside a belt pulley for whatever reason) is currently not installed as it is very difficult to reach.


You need a [[Grease Gun|grease gun]] (a.k.a. oil gun or ''Fettpresse'') to lubricate through the oil nipples. We bought [https://www.fk-soehnchen.de/werkstatt/werkstattbedarf/fettpressen-zubehoer/schmiernippel/Kegelschmiernippel-DIN-71412.html replacement oil nipples with metric thread] and installed them in all but two locations, and the grease gun fits those and (well enough, anyway) the original British ones.
You need a [[Grease Gun|grease gun]] (a.k.a. oil gun or ''Fettpresse'') to lubricate through the oil nipples. We bought [https://www.fk-soehnchen.de/werkstatt/werkstattbedarf/fettpressen-zubehoer/schmiernippel/Kegelschmiernippel-DIN-71412.html replacement oil nipples with metric thread] and installed them in all but two locations, and the grease gun fits those and (well enough, anyway) the original British ones.


=== Carriage ===
===Carriage ===
The cross slides move '''0.2mm for 1/10th of a revolution'''. Keep in mind the diameter of the workpiece reduces by '''twice''' that amount!
The cross slides move '''0.2mm for 1/10th of a revolution'''. Keep in mind the diameter of the workpiece reduces by '''twice''' that amount!


=== Work Holding ===
===Work Holding ===
The lathe is equipped with a simple 3-door chuck with two sets of jaws. One set is for small diameter workpieces and inside diameter holding, the other for larger diameters (steps get shorter to the center). To change the jaws turn the key until they come out. Be sure not to drop them! Insert the new set in the right order (1-1, 2-2, 3-3) while turning the chuck key in the other direction.
The lathe is equipped with a simple 3-door chuck with two sets of jaws. One set is for small diameter workpieces and inside diameter holding, the other for larger diameters (steps get shorter to the center). To change the jaws turn the key until they come out. Be sure not to drop them! Insert the new set in the right order (1-1, 2-2, 3-3) while turning the chuck key in the other direction.


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'''We should attach [[Coil Springs|coil springs]] to each of our chuck keys so they can't be accidentally left in the chuck when the machine is turned on and go flying.<sup> [http://www.hgkoenig.de/tipps-fuer-drechsler/109-futterschluessel]</sup>'''
'''We should attach [[Coil Springs|coil springs]] to each of our chuck keys so they can't be accidentally left in the chuck when the machine is turned on and go flying.<sup> [http://www.hgkoenig.de/tipps-fuer-drechsler/109-futterschluessel]</sup>'''


=== Headstock ===
===Headstock===
The drive shaft's thread is 1 1/8" x 12 TPI Whitworth.
The drive shaft's thread is 1 1/8" x 12 TPI Whitworth.


=== Tailstock ===
=== Tailstock===
Our lathe has a tailstock with a MKII (18 mm) taper for a live center (not yet) or a drill chuck (installed).
Our lathe has a tailstock with a MKII (18 mm) taper for a live center (not yet) or a drill chuck (installed).


The (live) center is used to support longer workpieces. For this they need to be center drilled beforehand. With the drill chuck normal [[drills]] can be mounted; center-drilling is advised before drilling with a standard drill.
The (live) center is used to support longer workpieces. For this they need to be center drilled beforehand. With the drill chuck normal [[drills]] can be mounted; center-drilling is advised before drilling with a standard drill.


== ''Small Lathe'' ==
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== Further Reading ==
* [https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/Myford_ML7.html manufacturer's website (EN)]
* Wikipedia
** ''[https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leit-_und_Zugspindeldrehmaschine Leit- und Zugspindeldrehmaschine (DE)]''
** [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_lathe metal lathe (EN)]
* [http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford-ml7/index.html lathes.co.uk photo essay] - including some nice upgrade ideas!
* [http://www.lathes.co.uk/myfordrebuild/www.onepoint6.co.uk/Myford/Myford%20ML7%20Page%202.htm another owner's rebuild protocol]


==Further Reading==
*[https://www.myford.co.uk/acatalog/Myford_ML7.html manufacturer's website (EN)]
*Wikipedia
**''[https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leit-_und_Zugspindeldrehmaschine Leit- und Zugspindeldrehmaschine (DE)]''
**[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_lathe metal lathe (EN)]
*[http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford-ml7/index.html lathes.co.uk photo essay] - including some nice upgrade ideas!
*[http://www.lathes.co.uk/myfordrebuild/www.onepoint6.co.uk/Myford/Myford%20ML7%20Page%202.htm another owner's rebuild protocol]


[[Category:Metalworking]]
[[Category:Metalworking]]
[[Category:Turning]]
[[Category:Turning]]

Revision as of 16:28, 22 April 2022

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A lathe can easily pull you in if you don't pay attention. Keep long hair tucked away and avoid long sleeves or any other clothes that could get caught in the lathe. Take care of lose objects around the rotating parts as they can be thrown at high speeds.


Before You Leave

Before you leave it is important to clean the machine properly.

Mandatory:

  • use the brush to clean off the chips (you don't have to disassemble the whole machine every time to get all of them)
  • untighten the belt
  • remove your workpiece
  • disconnect the leadscrew and auto feed
  • cover the machine with the old bedsheet to protect it from abrasive dust

Sanding

You can use sandpaper to quickly finish the surface of a piece you've turned on the lathe. When doing this, place a shop rag on the lathe bed to prevent pieces of the abrasive from getting dragged into the mechanics where they might cause some damage!


Myford ML7

MachineInfoBox

Myford ML7 (Serial No. K51412)

Myford ML7.JPG
Synonyms: metalworking lathe, engine lathe,
machinists' lathe; DE: "Drehbank",
Zug- und Leitspindeldrehmaschine,
"Drehe"
Used with: tool bits
Location: metal workshop
Access Requirements: Metal Lathe Introduction
Status: disconnected - needs Motorschutzschalter or similar
Manual: vintagemachinery
Tutors: Pakue
Johannes
Luzian
Similar (More or Less): wood lathe


We were generously given a Myford ML7 metalworking lathe. Based on the serial number, this beauty seems to be from the year 1962!

We restored it to working condition (see corresponding issue) and will add more and more information as we gain more experience!

Restauration of the metal lathe


Lubrication

Locations of all oil nipples

There are various oil nipples (2 B.A. thread; Schmiernippel) all over the machine and two sight-feed lubricators (a.k.a. drip feed oilers) above the headstock spindle bearings.

The manufacturer's recommendation is "Esso Nuto 32" gear oil but we are using a more viscous "90" oil as that was available to us and two trusted sources ensured us it should work just fine.


Oil Nipples

According to the manufacturer's assembly diagrams, there should be 3 oil nipples on the carriage, 2 on the "motorizing" section, 1 on the tailstock, 2 on the headstock and 2 on the "bed, leadscrew and gear train" section for a total of 10 nipples. However, one of those (on the headstock, inside a belt pulley for whatever reason) is currently not installed as it is very difficult to reach.

You need a grease gun (a.k.a. oil gun or Fettpresse) to lubricate through the oil nipples. We bought replacement oil nipples with metric thread and installed them in all but two locations, and the grease gun fits those and (well enough, anyway) the original British ones.

Carriage

The cross slides move 0.2mm for 1/10th of a revolution. Keep in mind the diameter of the workpiece reduces by twice that amount!

Work Holding

The lathe is equipped with a simple 3-door chuck with two sets of jaws. One set is for small diameter workpieces and inside diameter holding, the other for larger diameters (steps get shorter to the center). To change the jaws turn the key until they come out. Be sure not to drop them! Insert the new set in the right order (1-1, 2-2, 3-3) while turning the chuck key in the other direction.

It is very important to hold the workpiece securely so no chatter occurs and the piece doesn't fly out. Avoid too long of a stick-out without the use of the end stock support (not available yet). Usually the thicker the material, the longer the stick-out can be. A good rule of thumb is a 3:1 ratio.

Scratches can be avoided by using some shim stock (copper or brass) in between the jaws and the workpiece.

We should attach coil springs to each of our chuck keys so they can't be accidentally left in the chuck when the machine is turned on and go flying. [1]

Headstock

The drive shaft's thread is 1 1/8" x 12 TPI Whitworth.

Tailstock

Our lathe has a tailstock with a MKII (18 mm) taper for a live center (not yet) or a drill chuck (installed).

The (live) center is used to support longer workpieces. For this they need to be center drilled beforehand. With the drill chuck normal drills can be mounted; center-drilling is advised before drilling with a standard drill.


Further Reading